Holdback Rack Podcast

Problematic and Lethal Boa Morphs

Episode Summary

Problematic and Lethal Boa Morphs Recorded Wednesday 1/5/22 - Jana and Jessica discuss a little scrap of current events and all the boa morphs with problems. Spoiler alert: there’s a ton of boa morphs with problems!

Episode Notes

Hare Hollow Farm
Jessica Hare
Harehollowfarm.com
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Hare-Hollow-Farm-113861266980541
Morph Market - https://www.morphmarket.com/stores/hare_hollow_farm/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hare_hollow_farm/
 

ASM Royal Tails
Jana King

Facebook -https://facebook.com/RoyalReptails/

Morph Market -https://www.morphmarket.com/stores/asmroyaltails/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/asmroyaltails/

Intro Music - EEKmusic on audio jungle

Nidovirus paper - Serpentoviruses: More than Respiratory Pathogens

https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/JVI.00649-20

Scoria -wobble in the heterozygote, lethal homozygote spider
https://superiormorphs.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/the-scoria-boa-mystery/

Super motley - lethal by 2, hetero still missing some amount of muscle and has small head and blown out sides
Motley / Super Motley
https://ingridthesnake.com/motley-mutation-in-boas/
 

Keltic - hetero is okay, super is has much the same problems as a super motley

Both Keltic and super keltic:

https://snakerambles.tumblr.com/post/56734812169/morph-keltic-super-keltic-species-common-boa

Smoke - assuming allelic keltic motley functionally like a super motley, basically a snake with a time limit

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ACuwCI-6v68/maxresdefault.jpg

Super jungle - lethal to some initially others at 2-3 yo and the rest as older adults, any reproduction from these is a rumor from europe, there’s a handful over 5 but woo that’s a real victory to have a barely functioning 8 yo that cant breed, heterozygotes seem fine

Jungle -

https://www.backwaterreptiles.com/boas/jungle-boa-for-sale.html

Super Jungle -
https://64.media.tumblr.com/02cc1b5d83ca10885641189bbefa9290/tumblr_n1ts15BKVt1rfsjw4o6_1280.jpg

Super hypo - blown tire sidewalls, there’s some sort of musculature issue, breeds just fine and normal lifespan as far as anyone can tell, AKA salmon, orangetail

Hypo
https://snakesatsunset.com/hypo-boa-constrictor-for-sale-boa-constrictor-yearling-males-only/

Super Hypo

https://www.boa-constrictors.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/reg/PanamaSalmonHypoGregGrindstaff.jpg

Super aztec - lethal to some, failure to the thrive in most due to neuro issues, some of them live for awhile, I’ve never heard of them breeding, 

Aztec
Super Aztec
https://ingridthesnake.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/IMG_6127.jpg

Marron - homozygotes sterile, and most of them don’t live into adulthood, heterozygote appears fine

 Marron

http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/2039DSC_0004-med.JPG
 

Super Marron
http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/150043super_marr.jpg

Keywest/rlt/parsons - supers seem to die at an unusually high rate at birth, so they drown before birth, blown out sides like a super hypo imo

Hetero
https://64.media.tumblr.com/1349d8bc3f71379aabbc30bacf13438a/tumblr_mm22l9JEFL1rfsjw4o3_1280.jpg
Super 

https://64.media.tumblr.com/1349d8bc3f71379aabbc30bacf13438a/tumblr_mm22l9JEFL1rfsjw4o3_1280.jpg

Kahl/sharp - bulging eyes full of fluid at birth, some eyes fail, some eye recover, linked to melanocyte not mediating eye formation so you cant breed away and antibiotics doesnt help keep the eye unless its getting secondarily infected

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9LZvqpAlGSE/mqdefault.jpg

Fires - thin skin, small scales sometimes small eyes, i havent played with a homo fire but they breed… clearly

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQPBoJaMaRo/

 

Onyx/leopard - this could be a boa sigma problem but they cant digest well as babies, get big bellies and die if over fed, it seems to me like its more common in the homozygote
Leopard leopards:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/AQw9BxM-4wFQvMOvr3BCz38353WiDk1yal8QSevGuXOg3IX-sdmRxJc3f3P67JIeoVh2wRkSqlpAoTzmRztzDpxKTXhokV3yUxC3le0M

Mosaic leopard -
https://www.blumenboas.com/images/Ony.jpg

 

Zero - some percent have narrow heads, no idea about long term issues with the narrow headed ones, zeros homozygotes do breed
Normal zero - 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW7UYkMsDzU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCHmis1McOh/?fbclid=IwAR0hiiW78DdEXvLuirr1-2eQtCVIrtoex4MRBAdrcI64K17t4JGHyendpQY

Icky zero - 

https://community.morphmarket.com/uploads/db1442/optimized/3X/7/1/715dd74d9cdb781055c13c33849f03ae608b8327_2_281x500.jpeg

Labyrinth - heterozygote seems fine, rumors that some of the heterozygotes just never want to breed, no rumors about the homozygote yet. They’re all reportedly alive and doing okay.

Sangria/blood - het and homos seem okay

Raptor - just fine

All T+ lines - seem fine

Kraken - not monogenic

Sterling - if zeros can have narrow heads can these as well?

Anerys - all of them beautiful and perfect in every way

Imgs - seem good, although how many people have a known homozygote

Jablonski ss - just fine